Arnie Herber

Arnold Charles Herber (April 2, 1910 – October 14, 1969) was a professional quarterback in the National Football League (NFL) for the Green Bay Packers and New York Giants. He was inducted to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.

Arnie Herber
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Pro Football Hall of Fame induction in 1966
No. 38
Personal information
Born:April 2, 1910
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Died:October 14, 1969 (aged 59)
Green Bay, Wisconsin
Height:5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Weight:203 lb (92 kg)
Career information
High school:Green Bay (WI) West
Career history
Career highlights and awards
Career NFL statistics
Passing yards:8,041
Completion percentage:40.9
Passer rating:50.1
Player stats at

Early years

Born in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Herber was a Packers fan from a young age, all while starring at local Green Bay West High School in football and basketball.[1][2] He played two years of college football, on the freshman team at University of Wisconsin–Madison and spent his sophomore season at Regis College in Denver,[1] which dropped football after the 1929 season.[2] Herber went back to Green Bay and worked in the club house as a handyman. Coach Curly Lambeau gave Herber a try-out and Herber at age 20 joined a team that was currently dominating the NFL.[3]

Green Bay Packers career

Green Bay had posted an undefeated 12–0–1 record and won the NFL title in 1929, the year before Herber was on the roster. In his first year, 1930, the Packers continued their success and won another title with Herber playing tailback in the famous Notre Dame Box formation. In 1931, with Herber throwing more than usual for that era to early greats like John "Blood" McNally, the Packers reeled off nine straight wins to start the season and held on to win a third straight title. No other team in NFL history, besides the Packers themselves in the 1960s, has won three consecutive titles.

The NFL did not start keeping statistics until 1932—when they did that year, Herber finished as the top passer in the league with 639 yards and nine touchdowns. He won the passing title again in 1934 with 799 yards and eight touchdowns.[4] But Herber reached his peak as a pro starting in 1935 with the arrival of Don Hutson, the league's first true wide receiver, who changed the game with his graceful moves, precise patterns, and superb hands. Herber loved to throw the ball long and was a perfect fit for Hutson's talent. Hutson's first NFL reception was an 83-yard touchdown pass from Herber on the first play of the game when the Packers beat the Chicago Bears, 7–0. In 1936, Herber and Hutson rewrote (temporarily) the NFL passing-receiving record book. Herber tossed a record 177 passes for a record 1,239 yards, and 11 touchdowns. Hutson set new records with 34 catches, 526 yards receiving, and eight touchdowns, all marks he would soon improve. Green Bay finished 10-1-1 and went to the NFL title game, which they won 21-6 over the Boston Redskins at the Polo Grounds in New York. In that game, Green Bay passed for 153 yards and Herber threw two touchdowns, one to Hutson.

Sharing time with another great passer, Cecil Isbell, Herber led the Packers to the title game again in 1938 and 1939. In the 1938 championship game, Green Bay lost to the New York Giants 23–17 at the Polo Grounds despite another touchdown pass from Herber. In 1939, Green Bay avenged that loss with a 27–0 drubbing of the Giants in Milwaukee.[5][6] Herber threw for another touchdown in the 1939 title game.[7] In 1940, Isbell began to get more playing time and Herber was waived at the end of training camp in 1941,[8] and retired after 11 seasons with Green Bay.

New York Giants career

At age 34, Herber came back to the draft-depleted NFL in 1944, answering a call to play for the New York Giants.[9] Herber threw sparingly but efficiently, for 651 yards and six touchdowns. As usual for Herber-led teams, the Giants won their conference and went to the NFL title game. Herber's old squad, the Packers, still featuring Don Hutson, beat the Giants 14-7. Herber played one more forgettable season with the Giants in 1945 and then retired for good.

Professional statistics

Passing Rushing Fumbles
Year Team G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD Fum Lost
1930 GB 10 4 - - - - - 3 - - - - - - - 1
1931 GB 3 0 - - - - - - - - - - - 1 - 1
1932 GB 14 8 37 101 36.6 639 6.33 9 9 51.5 64 149 2.3 1 0 2
1933 GB 11 6 50 124 40.3 656 5.29 3 12 26.2 62 77 1.2 0 0 0
1934 GB 11 7 42 115 36.5 799 6.95 8 12 45.1 37 33 0.9 0 0 0
1935 GB 11 8 48 109 36.7 729 6.69 8 14 45.4 19 0 0.0 0 0 0
1936 GB 12 5 77 173 44.5 1,239 7.16 11 13 58.9 20 -32 -1.6 0 0 0
1937 GB 9 0 47 104 45.2 684 6.58 7 10 50.0 5 9 1.8 0 0 0
1938 GB 8 4 22 55 40.0 336 6.11 3 4 48.8 6 -1 -0.2 0 0 2
1939 GB 10 7 57 139 41.0 1,107 7.96 8 9 61.6 18 -11 -0.6 0 0 1
1940 GB 10 4 38 89 42.7 560 6.29 6 7 53.6 6 -23 -3.8 0 0 0
1944 NYG 10 3 36 86 41.9 651 7.57 6 8 53.0 7 -58 -8.3 0 0 0
1945 NYG 10 0 35 80 43.8 641 8.01 9 8 69.8 6 -27 -4.5 0 3 0
Totals 129 56 481 1175 40.9 8,041 6.84 81 106 50.1 250 116 .5 2 3 7
Source: [1]


Overall, Herber passed for 8,041 yards, 81 touchdowns, and 106 interceptions. He led his teams to four NFL championships. At the time Herber retired for the first time in 1940, he had equaled Benny Friedman for the all-time lead in touchdown passes with 66. He added to his total later when he came out of retirement for a two-year stint with the New York Giants.

Herber was the first great long thrower in the NFL and his success paved the way for truly "modern" quarterbacks Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman. Herber was said to throw the ball with all five fingers on the laces, a peculiarity shared by no one else. It was his performance with Don Hutson, however, that made him a legend and assured his place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1966.[10] He was elected to the Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame in 1968.[11]

During the NFL's 50th season celebration in 1969, Herber was selected to the All-1930s team in August.[12] Two months later, he died of cancer at age 59 in Green Bay,[13] and is buried at its Fort Howard Memorial Park.


  1. ^ a b "Arnie Herber a home town boy who made good with Packers". Milwaukee Sentinel. November 20, 1932. p. 12A.
  2. ^ a b Walfoort, Cleon (November 5, 1965). "Herber couldn't thread needle with ball, but..." Milwaukee Journal. p. 24, part 2.
  3. ^ 1929 Green Bay Packers
  4. ^ "Arnie Herber captures pro passing title". Milwaukee Journal. December 14, 1934. p. 8, part 2.
  5. ^ Burton, Lewis (December 12, 1938). "Giants defeat Packers, 23-17 for pro title". Milwaukee Sentinel. p. 13.
  6. ^ Gannon, Pat (December 12, 1938). "Giants' early attack defeats Green Bay for title, 23 to 17". Milwaukee Journal. p. 4, part 2.
  7. ^ Strickler, George (December 11, 1939). "Packers win pro title; whip Giants, 27-0". Chicago Tribune. p. 21.
  8. ^ Kuechle, Oliver E. (September 10, 1941). "Packers ask waivers on Herber, five others". Milwaukee Journal. p. 3, part 2.
  9. ^ "Arnie Herber attempts comeback with Giants". Milwaukee Journal. Associated Press. September 1, 1944. p. 8.
  10. ^ "Herber, Kiesling in grid hall". Milwaukee Journal. wire services. March 23, 1966. p. 19, part 2.
  11. ^ "3 ex-Packers to receive fame honors". Milwaukee Journal. October 29, 1968. p. 1, part 2.
  12. ^ Rathet, Mike (August 26, 1969). "Hutson, Herber selected to All-1930s football team". Reading Eagle. Pennsylvania. Associated Press. p. 23.
  13. ^ "Arnie Herber, Ex-Packer Ace, Dies of Cancer". The La Crosse Tribune. October 15, 1969. p. 31. Retrieved March 27, 2015 – via open access

External links

1944 NFL Championship Game

The 1944 National Football League Championship Game was the 12th National Football League (NFL) title game. The game was played on December 17 at the Polo Grounds in New York City, and the attendance was 46,016. The game featured the Green Bay Packers (8–2), champions of the Western Division versus the Eastern Division champion New York Giants (8–1–1).The Packers were led by longtime head coach Curly Lambeau and its stars were running back Ted Fritsch, end Don Hutson, and quarterback Irv Comp. The Giants were led by head coach Steve Owen. They also had running back Bill Paschal and former Packers quarterback Arnie Herber as well as a dominant defense. The Packers were slight favorites, despite the Giants' 24–0 shutout win four weeks earlier. Prior to the game, the Packers had spent over a week preparing in Charlottesville, Virginia

The Packers completed their regular season on November 26, the Giants on December 10.

Green Bay scored two touchdowns in the second quarter then yielded one early in the fourth to win 14-7 for their sixth and final league title under Lambeau, their first since 1939.The Packers did not return to the title game for 16 years, and won the following year in 1961, the first of five titles in seven seasons in the 1960s under head coach Vince Lombardi.

1944 New York Giants season

The 1944 New York Giants season was the franchise's 20th season in the National Football League.

In an April 2013 article, football analytics website Cold Hard Football Facts named the 1944 Giants the "Stingiest Defense in NFL history," as the team only surrendered 75 points in ten games. "The manpower shortage on NFL fields created a variety of statistical anomalies on both sides of the field," said the article, "and the 1944 Giants are no exception. But even then, the 1944 Giants were a truly awesome unit: the average team scored 18.0 [points per game] in 1944, well above the 7.5 PPG average surrendered by the Giants. [...] But even the best defenses can’t get it done alone: Giants quarterback Arnie Herber threw four interceptions in New York's 14–7 NFL title game loss to Herber's former team, the Packers. The 1944 Giants were a mere No. 5 in scoring offense in the 10-team NFL."

Bob Monnett

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Cecil Isbell

Cecil Frank Isbell (July 11, 1915 – June 23, 1985) was an American football Quarterback and coach. He played five years in the National Football League (NFL) with the Green Bay Packers, leading them to the NFL Championship in 1939. He retired after the 1942 season to become an assistant coach at his alma mater, Purdue University, and the following year became its head coach for three seasons.Isbell was the head coach of the Baltimore Colts of the All-America Football Conference from 1947 to 1949, resigning after four winless games. He then became an assistant under former head coach Curly Lambeau, now with the Chicago Cardinals. When Lambeau resigned late in the 1951 season, Isbell was the interim head coach for the final two games, which they split. Isbell's pro head coaching record was 10–23–1. He was hired as an assistant coach with the Dallas Texans if the NFL in 1952. Isbell was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame as a player in 1967.

Charley Brock

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Curly Lambeau

Earl Louis "Curly" Lambeau (April 9, 1898 – June 1, 1965) was a professional American football player and coach in the National Football League (NFL). Lambeau, along with his friend and fellow Green Bay, Wisconsin native George Whitney Calhoun, founded the Green Bay Packers in 1919. From 1919 to 1929, Lambeau served as a player-coach and maintained de facto control on the day-to-day operations of the team. As a player, Lambeau lined up as a halfback, which in the early years of the NFL was the premier position. He was the team's primary runner and passer, accounting for 35 touchdowns (eight as a rusher, three as a receiver, and 24 as a passer) in 77 games. He won his only NFL championship as a player in 1929.

From 1919 to 1949, Lambeau was the head coach and general manager of the Packers. He led his team to over 200 wins and six NFL championships, including three straight from 1929 to 1931. He shares the distinction with rival George Halas of the Chicago Bears and later, Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots of coaching his team to the most NFL championships. Lambeau also coached eight players who went on to be elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. With players such as quarterback Arnie Herber and split end Don Hutson, his teams revolutionized the use of the passing game in football. After a falling out with the Packers Board of Directors, Lambeau left the Packers to coach the Chicago Cardinals for two seasons and then Washington Redskins for two more. He retired from the NFL in 1953.

For his accomplishments, Lambeau has been widely recognized and honored. He was named to the NFL 1920s All-Decade Team as one of the top halfbacks in the league's first decade of existence. He was an inaugural inductee to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963 and the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame in 1970 in recognition for his role as founder, player, and coach of the Packers. Shortly after his death in 1965, the Packers home stadium, which is still in use today, was renamed to Lambeau Field in his honor.

Irv Comp

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Born in the Bay View section of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Comp had sight in only one eye. He attended college and played college football at Benedictine College, then known as St. Benedict's College. He graduated in 1942, and became a member of the Ravens Hall of Fame in 1988.Comp was drafted in the third round with the 23rd pick by the Green Bay Packers in the 1943 NFL Draft.

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List of Green Bay Packers starting quarterbacks

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The Packers have had 46 starting quarterbacks (QB) in the history of their franchise. The Packers' past starting quarterbacks include Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees Curly Lambeau, Tony Canadeo, Arnie Herber, Bart Starr and Brett Favre. The team's first starting quarterback was Norm Barry, while the longest serving was Brett Favre. The Packers' starting quarterback for the 2018 season was Aaron Rodgers, who was playing in his 14th season in the NFL.

They are listed in order of the date of each player's first start at quarterback for the Packers.

List of National Football League annual passing touchdowns leaders

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List of New York Giants starting quarterbacks

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Milt Gantenbein

Milton Edward Gantenbein (May 31, 1910 – December 18, 1988) was an American football player who played on three championship teams, as an end and as a defensive end for the Green Bay Packers from 1931 to 1940.

The former University of Wisconsin–Madison standout was a member of three National Football League (NFL) championship teams under head coach Curly Lambeau. In 1931, his rookie year, the sure-handed Gantenbein was the perfect complement to deep-threat Laverne Dilweg in Lambeau's pass-oriented offense and was a solid addition at defensive end. Green Bay's defense limited opponents to 87 points and had five shutouts, while the Packer offense compiled 291 points in fashioning a 12-2 record and winning a third league championship title in the 1931 NFL season. Gantenbein continued as a two-way starter for the next three seasons, playing in the shadow of Dilweg and John McNally.

In the 1936 NFL season, Don Hutson and Gantenbein were the main targets in the Packers' record-setting passing attack, with 34 and 15 catches respectively. The duo was also instrumental in Green Bay's 21-6 victory over the Boston Redskins in the 1936 NFL Championship Game . Gantenbein iced the game with an 8-yard touchdown reception from Arnie Herber in the third quarter.

Gantenbein was named a team captain for the 1937 squad, and he again was a stalwart in the defensive line and the team's second leading receiver with 12 catches for 237 yards (19.8 yard average) and two touchdowns. In the 1937 NFL season, Green Bay slipped to 7–4. In the 1938 NFL season, the team had an 8-3 record and made it to the 1938 NFL Championship Game, where the Packers lost 23–17 to the Giants in New York.

In the 1939 NFL season, the Green Bay Packers struggled at times but posted a 9–2 record to gain a rematch with the New York Giants for the league title in the 1939 NFL Championship Game. This time the game was played on Wisconsin soil, and Gantenbein opened the scoring with a 7-yard touchdown reception from Arnie Herber. It would be all the points the Packers needed on a cold and windy afternoon at Wisconsin State Fair Park in Milwaukee, as they crushed the Giants, 27–0.

He was inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame in 1972 and finished his career with three NFL championships, 77 receptions, 1,299 yards and eight touchdowns. Milt played in 103 regular-season games as a Packer.

With his playing days behind him, Gantenbein went on to coach football at Manhattan College in New York for several years.

Pigskin Champions

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It featured the then-World Champion Green Bay Packers in an exhibition of football skills. There is an amazing clip of Arnie Herber breaking a pane of glass mounted on the field goal posts, throwing from midfield. A number of players punt the ball into the coffin corner from a good distance. There are great shots of Curly, Don Hutson and others.

Randy Johnson (quarterback)

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Johnson entered the 1966 NFL draft, and became the first Texas A&I player to ever be selected in the first round (16th overall). Over his professional career, he completed 647 of 1,286 passes (a 50.3-percentage) for 51 touchdowns and 90 interceptions.

Red Dunn

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Nicknamed "Red" for the color of his hair, Dunn possessed an equally colorful personality. He earned five letters competing in football, basketball and baseball at Marquette Academy. Dunn later attended Marquette University, earning All-America honors while leading the Golden Avalanche in 1922 and 1923 to a 17–0–1 record. While a Packer, he served as Curly Lambeau's "field general" for the 1929, 1930, and 1931 NFL Champions.

After this playing days Dunn moved to coaching, assisting Frank Murray and Paddy Driscoll at Marquette from 1932 to 1940. Dunn is a member of the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame and the Wisconsin Athletic Hall of Fame.

Tom Kennedy (American football)

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Tony Sarausky

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Arnie Herber—awards, championships and honors

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