1908–09 FA Cup

The 1908–09 FA Cup was the 38th staging of the world's oldest association football competition, the Football Association Challenge Cup (more usually known as the FA Cup). Manchester United won the competition for the first time, beating Bristol City 1–0 in the final at Crystal Palace, through a goal from Sandy Turnbull.

Matches were scheduled to be played at the stadium of the team named first on the date specified for each round, which was always a Saturday. If scores were level after 90 minutes had been played, a replay would take place at the stadium of the second-named team later the same week. If the replayed match was drawn further replays would be held at neutral venues until a winner was determined. If scores were level after 90 minutes had been played in a replay, a 30-minute period of extra time would be played.

1908–09 FA Cup
Country England
Defending championsWolverhampton Wanderers
ChampionsManchester United
(1st title)
Runners-upBristol City


The format of the FA Cup for the season had two preliminary rounds, five qualifying rounds, four proper rounds, and the semi finals and final.

Round Date
Extra Preliminary Round Saturday 12 September 1908
Preliminary Round Saturday 19 September 1908
First Qualifying Round Saturday 3 October 1908
Second Qualifying Round Saturday 17 October 1908
Third Qualifying Round Saturday 7 November 1908
Fourth Qualifying Round Saturday 21 November 1908
Fifth Qualifying Round Saturday 5 December 1908
First Round Proper Saturday 16 January 1909
Second Round Saturday 6 February 1909
Third Round Saturday 20 February 1909
Fourth Round Saturday 6 March 1909
Semi Finals Saturday 27 March 1909
Final Saturday 24 April 1909

First round proper

37 of the 40 clubs from the First and Second divisions joined the 12 clubs who came through the qualifying rounds. Of the League sides, Bradford Park Avenue were entered at the Fourth Qualifying Round, while Gainsborough Trinity and Chesterfield were put into the Fifth Qualifying Round. Bradford went out in that round, losing to Croydon Common. Ten non-league clubs joined the other two sides in winning through to the First Round Proper.

Fifteen non-league sides were given byes to the First Round to bring the total number of teams up to 64. These were:

Millwall Athletic
Queens Park Rangers
Crystal Palace
Swindon Town
Plymouth Argyle
Northampton Town
Bristol Rovers
Norwich City
West Ham United
Brighton & Hove Albion

32 matches were scheduled to be played on Saturday, 16 January 1909, except for one game which was played three days later. Ten matches were drawn and went to replays in the following midweek fixture, of which one went to a second replay.

Tie no Home team Score Away team Date
1 Birmingham 2–5 Portsmouth 16 January 1909
2 Blackpool 2–0 Rock-a-Nore 16 January 1909
3 Chesterfield 0–2 Glossop 16 January 1909
4 Bristol City 1–1 Southampton 16 January 1909
Replay Southampton 0–2 Bristol City 20 January 1909
5 Bury 8–0 Kettering 16 January 1909
6 Liverpool 5–1 Lincoln City 16 January 1909
7 Preston North End 1–0 Middlesbrough 16 January 1909
8 Watford 1–1 Leicester Fosse 16 January 1909
Replay Leicester Fosse 3–1 Watford 20 January 1909
9 Notts County 0–1 Blackburn Rovers 16 January 1909
10 Nottingham Forest 2–0 Aston Villa 16 January 1909
11 The Wednesday 5–0 Stoke 16 January 1909
12 Grimsby Town 0–2 Stockport County 16 January 1909
13 Wolverhampton Wanderers 2–2 Crystal Palace 16 January 1909
Replay Crystal Palace 4–2 Wolverhampton Wanderers 21 January 1909
14 West Bromwich Albion 3–1 Bolton Wanderers 16 January 1909
15 Luton Town 1–2 Millwall Athletic 16 January 1909
16 Everton 3–1 Barnsley 16 January 1909
17 Wrexham 1–1 Exeter City 16 January 1909
Replay Exeter City 2–1 Wrexham 20 January 1909
18 Sheffield United 2–3 Sunderland 16 January 1909
19 Newcastle United 5–0 Clapton Orient 16 January 1909
20 Manchester City 3–4 Tottenham Hotspur 16 January 1909
21 Queens Park Rangers 0–0 West Ham United 16 January 1909
Replay West Ham United 1–0 Queens Park Rangers 20 January 1909
22 Fulham 4–1 Carlisle United 16 January 1909
23 Brentford 2–0 Gainsborough Trinity 16 January 1909
24 Bristol Rovers 1–4 Burnley 16 January 1909
25 Northampton Town 1–1 Derby County 16 January 1909
Replay Derby County 4–2 Northampton Town 20 January 1909
26 Manchester United 1–0 Brighton & Hove Albion 16 January 1909
27 Norwich City 0–0 Reading 16 January 1909
Replay Reading 1–1 Norwich City 20 January 1909
Replay Norwich City 3–2 Reading 25 January 1909
28 Plymouth Argyle 1–0 Swindon Town 16 January 1909
29 Bradford City 2–0 Workington 19 January 1909
30 Hull City 1–1 Chelsea 16 January 1909
Replay Chelsea 1–0 Hull City 20 January 1909
31 Oldham Athletic 1–1 Leeds City 16 January 1909
Replay Leeds City 2–0 Oldham Athletic 20 January 1909
32 Croydon Common 1–1 Woolwich Arsenal 16 January 1909
Replay Woolwich Arsenal 2–0 Croydon Common 20 January 1909

Second round proper

The sixteen second round matches were played on Saturday, 6 February 1909. Six matches were drawn, with the replays taking place in the following midweek fixture.

Tie no Home team Score Away team Date
1 Bristol City 2–2 Bury 6 February 1909
Replay Bury 0–1 Bristol City 10 February 1909
2 Liverpool 2–3 Norwich City 6 February 1909
3 Preston North End 1–2 Sunderland 6 February 1909
4 Nottingham Forest 1–0 Brentford 6 February 1909
5 Blackburn Rovers 2–1 Chelsea 6 February 1909
6 West Bromwich Albion 1–2 Bradford City 6 February 1909
7 Leicester Fosse 0–2 Derby County 6 February 1909
8 Woolwich Arsenal 1–1 Millwall Athletic 6 February 1909
Replay Millwall Athletic 1–0 Woolwich Arsenal 10 February 1909
9 Stockport County 1–1 Glossop 6 February 1909
Replay Glossop 1–0 Stockport County 9 February 1909
10 Newcastle United 2–1 Blackpool 6 February 1909
11 Tottenham Hotspur 1–0 Fulham 6 February 1909
12 Portsmouth 2–2 The Wednesday 6 February 1909
Replay The Wednesday 3–0 Portsmouth 11 February 1909
13 Manchester United 1–0 Everton 6 February 1909
14 Plymouth Argyle 2–0 Exeter City 6 February 1909
15 Leeds City 1–1 West Ham United 6 February 1909
Replay West Ham United 2–1 Leeds City 11 February 1909
16 Crystal Palace 0–0 Burnley 6 February 1909
Replay Burnley 9–0 Crystal Palace 10 February 1909

Third round proper

The eight third-round matches were scheduled for Saturday, 20 February 1909. There were two replays, played in the following midweek fixture.

Tie no Home team Score Away team Date
1 Bristol City 2–0 Norwich City 20 February 1909
2 Nottingham Forest 3–1 Millwall Athletic 20 February 1909
3 The Wednesday 0–1 Glossop 20 February 1909
4 Derby County 1–0 Plymouth Argyle 20 February 1909
5 Tottenham Hotspur 0–0 Burnley 20 February 1909
Replay Burnley 3–1 Tottenham Hotspur 24 February 1909
6 West Ham United 0–0 Newcastle United 20 February 1909
Replay Newcastle United 2–1 West Ham United 24 February 1909
7 Manchester United 6–1 Blackburn Rovers 20 February 1909
8 Bradford City 0–1 Sunderland 20 February 1909

Fourth round proper

The four quarter final matches were scheduled for Saturday, 6 March 1909, although only two games were played on this date. The Burnley–Manchester United (the game was played 5 March and was abandoned for bad weather conditions after 72 minutes at 1-0 for Burnley) and Derby County–Nottingham Forest ties were played instead four and seven days later, respectively. The other two games were drawn, and replayed on 10 March.

Tie no Home team Score Away team Date
1 Burnley 2–3 Manchester United 10 March 1909
2 Derby County 3–0 Nottingham Forest 13 March 1909
3 Newcastle United 2–2 Sunderland 6 March 1909
Replay Sunderland 0–3 Newcastle United 10 March 1909
4 Glossop 0–0 Bristol City 6 March 1909
Replay Bristol City 1–0 Glossop 10 March 1909

Semi finals

The semi-final matches were played on Saturday, 27 March 1909. Bristol City and Derby County drew their match, and went on to replay it four days later. Bristol City won this tie, and so went on to meet the other semi-final winner, Manchester United, in the final.

Manchester United1–0Newcastle United
Bristol City1–1Derby County
Bristol City2–1Derby County


The Final was played on 24 April 1909 at Crystal Palace, and was contested by Manchester United and Bristol City, both of the First Division. Manchester United won by a single goal, scored by Sandy Turnbull midway through the first half. This was the first of United's twelve FA Cup titles to date.

Match details

Bristol City0 – 1Manchester United
Report S. Turnbull Goal 22'
Bristol City
Manchester United[2]

See also


  1. ^ There are conflicting reports regarding the referee for the final. Most sources claim that the referee was a Mr. J. Mason, while others say it was Mr. T. P. Campbell
  2. ^ "FA Cup Final kits, 1900-1909". Archived from the original on 25 September 2008. Retrieved 19 November 2008.
1909 FA Cup Final

The 1909 FA Cup Final was the final match of the 1908–09 FA Cup, the 38th season of England's premier club football cup competition. The match was played on 24 April 1909 at Crystal Palace, and was contested by Manchester United and Bristol City, both of the First Division. Manchester United won by a single goal, scored by Sandy Turnbull midway through the first half. This was the first of United's twelve FA Cup titles to date.

Albert Shepherd

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Bert Gosnell

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The clubs are 12 miles apart but are Welsh and English respectively, though Chester's Deva Stadium straddles the England–Wales border, and its pitch lies entirely in Wales.

Wrexham edged the English-Welsh derby with 30 victories against Chester's 26 in Football League meetings. Between 1986 and 2005, the sides were in the same division in just one season (1994–95) but they were then Football League Two opponents in the three campaigns from 2005–06 to 2007–08. In 2009–10 the sides clashed again in the Conference National after Chester followed Wrexham out of the Football League. Games between the two are usually moved to Sunday, with a 12:00 kick off, minimising time for the consumption of alcohol and the risk of the two sets of supporters clashing. In the 2012–13 season, Chester won promotion to return to the Conference Premier after a three-year absence, and played Wrexham at the Racecourse ground, in a highly anticipated derby, as this was the first since Chester re-formed as a fan owned club. All away fans had to travel to the match via coaches and police escort and were unable to travel by train, unlike most years. Despite going into the game with a poor form of recent games, Chester won the match 2–0, recording their first win of the season. The most recent meeting saw Wrexham win 2-0 in March 2018. The two teams are currently separated due to Chester's relegation from the National League at the end of the 2017-18 season which sees them play their football in the National League North, one division below Wrexham.

The Cross-border derby is often considered to be one of the biggest rivalries in the lower leagues of English football, due to the close proximity of Wrexham and Chester as they are the largest settlements in the area (North east Wales/West Cheshire) and the only clubs in that area to have played in The Football League. The Welsh-English divide also makes it unique to other football derbies in Britain, as national identity is a large part of the two teams.

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